The Gospel

God has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace.

This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

(II Timothy 1:9-10)

Sounds like a done deal! Your thoughts?

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22 thoughts on “The Gospel

  1. I’m thinking that your question, as stated, is not your real question. I am guessing that you are asking, “If Jesus destroyed death, why does it appear that so many among us are still dying (even if we construe this to be spiritual death, not physical death)?” Is Timothy saying that, somehow, somewhere, Jesus’ work on the cross was SO effective that he has completely and utterly overcome spiritual death, all appearances to the contrary aside?

    Hmm… What do you think Robert Capon would say about this?

  2. I agree that what you posted is good news, but yeah, lately I’m questioning traditional definitions of ‘gospel’. I’m not sure most definitions fit with the way ‘gospel’ is used in the ‘gospels’. In the gospels Jesus focused on preaching the good news or gospel everywhere he went. Mark 1:14-15 gives a hint of what the good was that Jesus preached… and all the parables on the kingdom of God/Heaven also do.

    Once we understand what Jesus meant by gospel, we can then try to fit other verses like this one in 2 Tim with how Christ’s disciples would have learned from Jesus about the gospel.

  3. Yeah, its a done deal and that’s good news. BTW ia is right about this being only part of the good news (gospel) of Jesus Christ. Apparently even the Bible is not big enough to contain it all. I think the good news is even still being written in lives around the world and will never end as long as Jesus is bringing others into fellowship with Father. The good news is dynamic and timeless, rather than static and simply historic.

    I’ve been reading “Truefaced” by Thrall, McNicol & Lynch. It differentiates between the paths of walking in trust and pleasing God. Pleasing God is little more than a sin-management system, but when we walk in trust, we “get to mature into who we already are”. I think it probably dovetails with where you’re going.

  4. Grace, I understand you are doing a Master’s in Leadership (I did one and it was awesome), so I understand why the volume of your posts has decreased. But I first want to say that I miss your voice. :-)

    Second, what’s the actual verse? There is no 2 Tim 9:10.

    Third, I think this basic truth is being uncovered by the emerging church, that grace didn’t suddenly become true at the cross. It has always been true because it is a concept that IS true regardless of time. The cross simply reiterated it.

    This is a radical shift in the historical story but one I believe was part of the early church and got lost.

    1. Thanks Jonathan, I truly miss blogging and interacting on blogs. I’m enough an extrovert to hate the idea that there is a great conversation going on that I’m missing.

  5. Thought that this from Jonathan was worth restating:

    “grace didn’t suddenly become true at the cross. It has always been true because it is a concept that IS true regardless of time. The cross simply reiterated it.”

    I think that the world needed to see God in the flesh to understand what grace is all about. Jesus changed everything.. it is why we need to interpret all of the bible through His words and His life.

  6. It is a done deal, and I think the wrestle (for me anyway) has always been learning to live on the right side of the cross. Though this may be a paraphrase, as I don’t have the book in front of me, Brother Lawrence’s words pop in my head now and then-

    “When he sinned, he (BL) confessed it to God with these words: “I can do nothing better without You. Please keep me from falling and correct the mistakes I make.” After that he did not feel guilty about the sin.

    There’s something so simple about that. Yet it’s actually very difficult to live this way. To believe that we are forgiven. We may know it in our heads, but we can sometimes live as though the cross wasn’t quite enough and we set about to fix ourselves, or punish ourselves…we forget so easily that without him we can do no better and neither can anyone else. But when I am having a good day, I know that I have been raised with Him and I can live like I believe it:) That it really is a done deal, and I spend less time obsessing about sin, (mine or anyone elses)-or what I am not, and more time really living. It affects how I treat others, care for them as well and so on.
    That’s my two bits:)

  7. How do you see repentance & obedience fitting into the Gospel as done deal?? I have heard so much preaching/teaching of how we need to fully repent and live obediently to Jesus,the reality is though that i cannot see,including those who preach and teach this way, that their lives are fully repentant and obedient??? Do you think there is a balance missed by this emphasis that does not let grace be grace??

    Have loved reading through your archive btw!!

    Robert

    1. Robert, I see repentance and obedience as responses to an already established reality. Living in the light of this reality transforms us.

    1. Sounds like what he might have been getting at was that we really don’t contribute, we recieve…
      An exchange takes place.. “here’s my sin and rebellion”, to which God takes, and gives salvation..
      beauty for ashes etc. :)

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