For as long as I’ve been blogging, I have had very few rude comments. However, the profiles of rude comments are similar. They are typically on an older post, and, big surprise, they are usually anonymous or link back to a page that is unavailable. Somehow anonymity allows commenters to believe that they can set aside basic courtesy.
So here is the latest which was left in response to my leadership articles. The leadership articles are linked on the *Recommended* page of this blog.
My response to the comment is in green.
I have a problem with the statement: “I don’t believe in positional authority within the body of Christ.”
So far so good. I don’t have a problem with well-stated disagreement or differences of opinion. I am quite solidly committed to my beliefs on this particular topic. I didn’t arrive at them lightly.
To quote my article, ” Understanding the equality of our relationship as brothers in the body of Christ is essential in understanding spiritual leadership.”
That’s not scripture.
You know I’m going to say it –
“You know how the kings of the nations show their power to the people. Important leaders use their power over the people. It must not be that way with you.” — Matthew 20:25-26 (NLV)
Eph 4:11-12 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up.
Apparently this is his argument for positional authority. These are gifts within the body, not positions of authority. In scripture, they are not referred to as offices or titles. They are gifts meant to be stewarded to empower and serve the body.
If you feel gifted in any of these areas, serve the body. If others recognize these giftings in you, keep serving the body. As soon as you attempt to wrap your identity around the gift or attempt to command others out of that gift, you are headed down a wrong path.
Here’s a quick tip. If you want to know how to identify a false apostle, he is often the guy using “Apostle” in front of his name as a title.
Submit to your pastor
I respect the guy at our church who goes by the title “senior pastor,” but he doesn’t pastor me. He doesn’t really know me (not whining) and with a congregation of 1,000, he can’t be expected to know everyone. I understand that he needs to spend his limited time with people who are organizationally a priority.
To be honest, even if we had a relationship, I don’t believe in one-sided submission. I have several mutually submissive relationships in my life that I draw on for wisdom, guidance, and accountability.
Most people don’t understand or believe that relationships with pastors, apostles, elders, and mentors can be mutually submissive. Should we honor, respect, and receive from the gifts of others? Absolutely! However, let’s realize that even (or perhaps especially) the least among us has something to contribute.
and prove yourself worthy of being a worthy.
I’m guessing perhaps he meant “prove yourself worthy of being a leader.”
Nope, I don’t have anything to prove, and people who believe they are worthy of being a leader scare me.
Go start a church of your own,
I don’t think so. :)
and then you may learn why there has to be somebody in change,
or perhaps somebody in charge, although I prefer the idea of somebody in change. I agree that organizational leadership can sometimes be helpful to serving and maintaining the life of a group. However, people who need to be in charge scare me too.
and why there are those who aren’t given leadership.
I agree that not everyone is suited for leadership. In fact, many of the people unsuited for leadership carry titles of positonal authority, yet they have no understanding of humility or serving but are instead focused on their own importance.
Perhaps we need a better reality. This would be a good place for a recent quote by Andrew Jones describing a different reality of church that is more organic than organizational:
“They start small and grow [emerge] in an organic fashion without transfer growth and certainly not with a chunk of people handed over from another church to kick-start them. These churches don’t have pastors or paid leaders and they generally don’t own buildings but sometimes they do rent space for communal gatherings, or residential communities, or art-space, or business enterprise, but not necessarily a ‘worship service’. These groups are usually local, small, integrated in the community [missional], and not always visible to the public as an official group or organization. Their goal is not to attract people to an event but rather to penetrate the community with the love of God and embody the gospel as well as communicate it.”