Comments on: I Don’t Make This Stuff Up http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/ ...on earth as it is in heaven Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:15:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Spankie http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6876 Spankie Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:43:54 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6876 cool... i like it that its ok to be , well, just normal...hmmm. i sort of like you folks here as well. cool… i like it that its ok to be , well, just normal…hmmm. i sort of like you folks here as well.

]]> By: grace http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6725 grace Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:48:48 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6725 <b>shaun</b>, Great post. Small congregations with simple services can be real gems. <b>mark</b>, Yes, I wonder what my next move will be. LOL <b>tom</b>! We all know some Melvins and probably occasionally lapse into our own personal Melvin moments. :) shaun,
Great post. Small congregations with simple services can be real gems.

mark,
Yes, I wonder what my next move will be.

LOL tom! We all know some Melvins and probably occasionally lapse into our own personal Melvin moments. :)

]]> By: Tom (aka Volkmar) http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6724 Tom (aka Volkmar) Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:42:36 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6724 There's about three "Melvins" in our Sunday gatherings--two are under 3 years old and one is over 30... ;o) moT There’s about three “Melvins” in our Sunday gatherings–two are under 3 years old and one is over 30… ;o)

moT

]]> By: Mark R http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6723 Mark R Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:23:56 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6723 Yeah - I know you don't make this stuff up - thing is there is a lot more weirder stuff out there!!! You don't need to watch X-Files to discover this truth. Yeah – I know you don’t make this stuff up – thing is there is a lot more weirder stuff out there!!! You don’t need to watch X-Files to discover this truth.

]]> By: shaun http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6722 shaun Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:53:17 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6722 Oh Yeah, you have me thinking now, I think I am going to write about that experience in my own space. Thanks for the inspiration! Peace Oh Yeah, you have me thinking now, I think I am going to write about that experience in my own space. Thanks for the inspiration!
Peace

]]> By: shaun http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6721 shaun Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:51:53 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6721 Grace, I can relate to this story in a small way. I have had a few experiences where I felt as though I was on another planet when in an unknown church service. The one thing that amazed me in one of these was what the people of a tiny congregation taught me about God's kingdom. I would agree with the unhealthiness of the leadership just from the description you give, I'm not sure I could jump that hurdle either. Anyway, I hope that you find Grace and peace on you journey, whether you go back or not. Peace Grace,
I can relate to this story in a small way. I have had a few experiences where I felt as though I was on another planet when in an unknown church service.
The one thing that amazed me in one of these was what the people of a tiny congregation taught me about God’s kingdom.
I would agree with the unhealthiness of the leadership just from the description you give, I’m not sure I could jump that hurdle either.
Anyway, I hope that you find Grace and peace on you journey, whether you go back or not.
Peace

]]> By: grace http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6718 grace Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:13:19 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6718 <b>BrotherM</b>, Nah, most leaders are good people. It's the role I have a problem with. <b>sarah and tracy</b>, I like the idea of having children in the service. Sadly, rather than typical toddler behavior, Melvin is already on the path to being handicapped by lack of normal guidance. I wasn't annoyed by the disruption, but I was bothered by the trajectory he is on. <b>sonja</b>, I hope that my presence wasn't a hindrance to their normal service. They certainly didn't need to perform for me, but I didn't know how to communicate that except by a relaxed demeanor and the smile plastered on my face. <b>wayne</b>, The lack of organization, resources, and things going wrong were not a negative to me. They were refreshing. The people were lovely, and I know that I would be blessed to get to know them. The couple in charge were quite unhealthy, and that is an obstacle for me. I have already attempted to serve with/under emotionally unhealthy leaders. That really was my only disappointment with the service. BrotherM,
Nah, most leaders are good people. It’s the role I have a problem with.

sarah and tracy,
I like the idea of having children in the service. Sadly, rather than typical toddler behavior, Melvin is already on the path to being handicapped by lack of normal guidance. I wasn’t annoyed by the disruption, but I was bothered by the trajectory he is on.

sonja,
I hope that my presence wasn’t a hindrance to their normal service. They certainly didn’t need to perform for me, but I didn’t know how to communicate that except by a relaxed demeanor and the smile plastered on my face.

wayne,
The lack of organization, resources, and things going wrong were not a negative to me. They were refreshing. The people were lovely, and I know that I would be blessed to get to know them.

The couple in charge were quite unhealthy, and that is an obstacle for me. I have already attempted to serve with/under emotionally unhealthy leaders. That really was my only disappointment with the service.

]]> By: Wayne Owens http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6717 Wayne Owens Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:55:18 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6717 I am not sure how to respond. First the discussion here is the negative effect of the "over organized church" then the negative of the totally unorganinzed church. It really is about the people and as a pastor have had almost everything go wrong on the same Sunday. I don't think it has been that bad as I would have likely invited Marvin to help me and set the rest of them down. Sounds like a church without many resources and if there are they are not spendiing them on fancy equip. Oh well great story and I do hope you will go back and get to know those folks. You may need them as much as they need you. WaynO I am not sure how to respond. First the discussion here is the negative effect of the “over organized church” then the negative of the totally unorganinzed church.
It really is about the people and as a pastor have had almost everything go wrong on the same Sunday. I don’t think it has been that bad as I would have likely invited Marvin to help me and set the rest of them down.
Sounds like a church without many resources and if there are they are not spendiing them on fancy equip.
Oh well great story and I do hope you will go back and get to know those folks. You may need them as much as they need you.
WaynO

]]> By: sonja http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6716 sonja Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:13:52 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6716 What is funny ... if they'd just ignored Melvin, he'd have quit and nothing would have happened. The adults probably got all in a tizzy because you were there and they felt like they needed to put on a good face for the visitor. What a riot. Melvin knew that uncomfortable vibes were flying all around the room and he knew exactly how to strum them. Ha ha ha ... kids are so funny. Unless they're pushing your buttons ... then not so much. I think if you go back and get to know those people the silliness will die down dramatically. What is funny … if they’d just ignored Melvin, he’d have quit and nothing would have happened. The adults probably got all in a tizzy because you were there and they felt like they needed to put on a good face for the visitor. What a riot.

Melvin knew that uncomfortable vibes were flying all around the room and he knew exactly how to strum them. Ha ha ha … kids are so funny. Unless they’re pushing your buttons … then not so much.

I think if you go back and get to know those people the silliness will die down dramatically.

]]> By: Tracy Simmons http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/i-dont-make-this-stuff-up/#comment-6715 Tracy Simmons Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:18:29 +0000 http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/?p=758#comment-6715 Funny stuff, but kind of sad, too. Maybe next time you go you could discretely slip out your cell phone and capture Melvin on video for us. I do so love to watch kids be kids! Funny stuff, but kind of sad, too. Maybe next time you go you could discretely slip out your cell phone and capture Melvin on video for us. I do so love to watch kids be kids!

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